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« on: August 29, 2008, 12:01:37 PM »

Hi,
This is exciting news !
Just published on beeradvocate.com by Todd, the owner of this great beery website.



* Duvel kegs are on their way to the States.
* The official public launch will be Oct 1 or the 15th, at 20 or so bars in NYC--followed by a wider release. This all depends when the ship arrives.
* It could be pouring at The Return of the Belgian Beer Fest on Sep 27. http://beeradvocate.com/fests/bbf
* Duvel draft is not the Duvel Gefilterd "green lettering" version, seen here:  http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/222/5962  , even though the branding shows that Duvel draft will have green lettering vs. red and separate glassware.
* Duvel draft is the same exact beer that goes into the bottle version. The only difference being that unlike the bottle, there will be no third fermentation in the keg, which means it's fermented only twice and will have a lower ABV (6.8%) as a result. Duvel goes through a primary fermentation and then a secondary fermentation in maturation vessels, the bottles go through a third (aka - bottle conditioning).
* It sounds like the goal of this release is to compliment Duvel in the bottle by providing the same Duvel experience on draft, with a slightly easier to drink beer (less alcohol) that will hopefully introduce the Duvel brand to a whole new audience of consumers--like draft beer drinkers.


People, this is revolutionary Duvel news !
This is the ever first time that Duvel will be kegged. Amazing and indeed a historic moment.
I really don't know if this kegs will also be available here in Belgium.
I mailed Duvel about this issue, and hopefully will get a clarifying answer. Keep y'informed....
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« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2008, 10:05:06 AM »

More clarification from Michel Moortgat:

What is Duvel Green, the beer released on draft?

First, a bit on Duvel in the bottle. Created by Albert Moortgat, bottled Duvel has become one of Belgium's favorite ales. The secret of its success lies in using only best-quality ingredients, and in the well-balanced, very specific, complex brewing and refermentation process that takes over 90 days.

After brewing and first fermentation - which takes about 30 days - the beer is tasted by the brew master and his staff. At this stage this beer is called "single-fermented." Typical Duvel flavors and aromas are already emerging, but the beer is lower in alcohol and carbonation, and the taste is slightly lighter and crisper.

When approved by the taste panel, the beer is prepared for secondary fermentation in the bottle, which involves adding additional yeast and sugar and bottling the beer. During 60 days the beer ferments and matures in the brewery warm-cellar and cold-cellar, developing the familiar flavors, aromas and alcohol that shape it into Duvel you know.

Now, a bit on Duvel Green: We in the brewery have enjoyed for decades the fresh, light taste of the 'single-fermented' Duvel, and we have traditionally cold-filtered and bottled a small portion of this beer for sale, but only at the brewery and a few selected locations in Belgium. The beer was labeled with a green label, as the nickname 'kleine' Duvel (or 'Green' Duvel) was used to describe the beer taken at a young stage of the brewing process of Duvel.

A small quantity of Duvel Green has now been made available on draft allowing a wider range of beer lovers to discover the beer.

Is this Duvel Green on draft the same beer as the classic bottle conditioned Duvel?

Yes and No. Duvel and Duvel Green are both brewed in the same installations, using the same ingredients (water, two-row summer malts, Saaz and Styrian Golding Hops) but as explained Duvel undergoes a second fermentation in the bottle while Duvel Green is cold filtered and packaged in kegs.

Duvel Green is certainly not a new beer, yet clear differences do exist between classic Duvel and Duvel Green in bottle or in keg.

The 'classic Duvel' is a sophisticated, full-flavored and aromatic Belgian Golden Ale, with clean, refined, silky sweet dry taste, while a 'Duvel Green' on draft has a gentle hoppiness, soft carbonation, and a subtle, smooth dryness with hints of fruitiness. The beer is not refermented, but is does have young Duvel flavors emerging from the first fermentation.

Two separate beers, yet from the same family. Familiar taste characteristics, but clearly different.

Why is there a difference between ABV levels on draft vs. in the bottle?

The single-fermented Duvel either leaves for a secondary fermentation (bottle-conditioning) in the bottle for the classic Duvel, or is conditioned for Duvel Green. The bottle-conditioned Duvel finishes at 8.5% ABV.

Preparing Duvel Green includes cold-filtering, balancing the raw materials for optimal flavor on draft, and some cold ageing of the kegs. This results in a specific ABV level of 6.8%.

A lot of questions on the forum are whether specific Duvel characteristics will be maintained? (Carbonation, foam head, aromas and flavors ...)

Comparing the Duvel Green on draft and the Duvel classic can be an interesting exercise. The clear differences and the similarities are what make the comparison stimulating.

It is clear that a lot of typical characteristics of Duvel in the bottle are created during the final fermentation of the beer in the warm cellar.

So yes, there is a difference between the two beers, which is why all bars carrying the Duvel Green on draft will also carry the bottle-conditioned Duvel.

When properly served Duvel Green will also have a large foam head. But it won't be as spectacular as the bottle-conditioned Duvel since the carbonation in the bottle is higher than in the keg. Also, the smaller 25cl draft glass does not have the carbonation-releasing small "D" carved into the bottom, as in the 33cl glass.

Cheers,

Michel Moortgat
CEO Duvel Moortgat


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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008, 10:49:27 AM »

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Congrats to Michel Moortgat, first of all for the new version of his topbeer Duvel, and further for releasing such a detailed and interesting explanation of the why and hows  thumb up

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2008, 12:24:55 PM »

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Hi !

Congrats to Michel Moortgat, first of all for the new version of his topbeer Duvel, and further for releasing such a detailed and interesting explanation of the why and hows  thumb up

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Hi Raf,
When clearly observing the message, I can only conclude that the new Duvel Draft = Kegged Duvel Green.
In fact, not a new beer at all !  Huh? Huh? Huh? OTOH, Duvel Green on draught is a new given fact  thumb up

The two messages posted here above, and who are copy-pasted from beeradvocate, are declarations from Duvel Moortgat ! But I notice contradictions and things that just do not fit at all.
The first message clearly speaks about three fermentations for the normal Duvel (second fermentation inside big maturing vats). The second message only speaks about two fermentations, being the second inside the bottle.  Huh?
Also, the alcohol% is a mystery.
Duvel Green from bottle = 7.5 vol% (no bottle refermentation)
Normal Duvel = 8.5 vol%
Duvel Draft = 6.8 vol%
Be aware that in Belgium the alc% can vary in 1 vol% on the label (this is legal here) ! makes it all that more complicated !
My guess is, and I'm nearly 100% sure, that the so called NEW Duvel Draft is just the same beer Duvel Green, but in this case, kegged !
BTW: I didn't receive a mail back from Duvel Moortgat ! Son I cannot tell if this Duvel Draft will be available inside Belgium. Maybe, the US is  just a test market.
See also message: http://belgianbeerboard.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=88888994
Anyway, somehow this is a bummer  drunkensmile
Cheers  cheers2
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2008, 12:34:33 AM »

People, this is revolutionary Duvel news !
This is the ever first time that Duvel will be kegged.


Not really. They served Duvel on draft at Expo Hannover in 2000.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2008, 05:36:25 PM »

People, this is revolutionary Duvel news !
This is the ever first time that Duvel will be kegged.


Not really. They served Duvel on draft at Expo Hannover in 2000.
Yes !
Which was most probably a one time experience only done for this happening ! ??
Anyway, remarkable. Would that have been the same beer as the recent introduced Duvel Draft ? I wonder.

Googling gave this Expo Hannover 2000 Duvel coaster.
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